Sunday, May 10, 2009

Way To Beat The Stereotype Guys


I found this on Andrew Sullivan. We're all so proud.

33 comments:

seanag said...

I do have to wonder what those weird little lavender zones are, considering that lavender is nowhere in the key. If it was California I would have to say it meant 'irrelevant due to intoxication by other substances." Or possibly, Gay Pride.

Oh, well, probably put together by a drunken Irishman--or to be fair, a drunken Eastern European, the shape of whose country is sadly not familiar enough to me to identify.

adrian mckinty said...

Seana

I suspect its even worse in Northern Ireland because there's a large proportion of Free Prebyterian total abstainers - god help them.

seanag said...

Well, I expect that's what they're hoping.

adrian mckinty said...

Also the figures for Scandanavia are artifically low; they all make their own moonshine, because of ridiculous tax rates, esp Icelanders. Everyone in Iceland is drunk much of the time. 1/3 of Icelanders believe in or have seen trolls. Thats some serious moonshine. You want a tip? Never have a brain operation in Iceland.

seanag said...

Too late.

If Bjork, or any other Icelanders have been lurking here, now is probably the time you will find out. Don't expect their comments to be particularly pleasant, now that you've discounted the existence of their one remaining national treasure.

bookwitch said...

Ah, but there is a large section of non-drinkers in Sweden, to counterbalance the home brewing. I was brought up in a completely dry environment, which explains a lot.

bookwitch said...

You don't believe in trolls?

seanag said...

Uh oh. Apparently you've managed to dis the Swedes too.

And yet still no Irish taking against you. Pubs must still be open.

adrian mckinty said...

Miss Witch

In Ireland they were all driven out by the fairies, obviously.

adrian mckinty said...

Seana

I've never been to Sweden but I think they seem more like the heroes of Willa Cather novels rather than jump suit wearing Abba fans. Just a hunch. Oh and I did see a great movie called Together a few years back which was enjoyable.

seanag said...

one house; one revolutionary; two open straight marriages; three gay people (maybe four); three children; two carnivores and eight vegetarians; there's only one way they're going to make it... togetherHaven't seen it, but judging by that tagline, it sounds like it could easily be some sort of co-op house right here in Santa Cruz. Except apparently there is snow.

I just saw a Swedish movie myself a week or two ago called Everlasting Moments by the director of The Emigrants, which has to be one of my favorite movies or I guess you might call it a series. I found this one a little slow, and you couldn't call it a big plug for marriage, but the acting by the two people who played the parents was brilliant.

My sister had a Swedish boyfriend named Ulf for awhile, who sounded very nice, though I never met him. I don't think the troll discussion ever came up, or maybe it was responsible for their ultimate break-up. Actually, I think it was just the mileage.

Well, I don't know about whether its more Abba or more Cather. My own most lasting impression comes from being thrown in with a couple of Swedish girls for a day or two on an island off of Thailand. I don't know why it seems as if we rode around with them in a van for a long time, because it wasn't a very big island. I'd say they were definitely more Abba than Cather, though. One of them was reading some novel in English that I kept trying discreetly to look over her shoulder at just to see what it was. I think I did finally figure it out and it was some bestseller, but what else are you going to take along on a trip in a van in your vacation? My sister and I (another sister) did eventually get into a conversation with them, but the only thing I remember is their disbelief and I think disdain that Americans only got two or three weeks off a year. It's odd that this came up, as neither of us had jobs at the time.

Both of them worked on the ferries, and it was not too long after our trip when there was that terrible ferry accident--a fire?--off of Sweden and many lives were lost. I always hoped that they were lucky enough not to have been in it.

I wonder if anyone here can tell that what I am really supposed to be doing right now is packing boxes?

adrian mckinty said...

Seana

I'm not sure that I've actually met any Swedes in real life. I knew a lot of Norwegians at Warwick University for some reason but no Swedes. The Norwegians were eccentric.

Before you ask it manifested itself in strange outfits, nudity and trips to odd places - Wolverhampton, etc.

seanag said...

Don't take offense, Book Witch. I'm pretty sure Adrian knows you are real. Just because he doesn't believe in trolls, it doesn't mean he doesn't believe in you.

Although I would be the first to say that the internet isn't quite the real world either.

As far as I know, I don't know any Norwegians. I'll be on the lookout, though. Santa Cruz seems a likely place for sightings.

seanag said...

Wow--that was weird. I'm half listening to this mother-daughter show on the radio. Someone was just talking about her schizophrenic mother and just as I sent that the guest said, 'I don't think she felt very real in the world, or very real with my father,' etc.--I'm now fairly convinced that this is all just the sim script that we keep harking back to.

Glad I keep coming up with my lines...

bookwitch said...

How is the packing going, Seana?

You mean neither of you believe in bookwitches, either? Adrian, tell your publisher the witch can be your first ever Swede, if they sort their dates right. And not a drink in sight.

My next door neighbour is from NI. So was my first Declan.

Swedes require long holidays, so I'm not surprised your travel pals felt you didn't get enough, Seana. It's that instinct that has me out of the country when the famous author of Fifty Grand makes his appearance.

I'm very eccentric. Or was that obvious? It might cause an inter-Nordic incident for me to say anything about Norwegians

marco said...

Liters per capita.
13+ a year
roughly means a liter a day of 4% abv beer.
Respectable, considering children, non drinkers, etc.

We did present the list and draft our campaign schedule. Official campaigning day in day out will start on Wednesday after all regularity checks are completed.
I've already begun to listen to my electorate. Since one of my I surest votes comes from an old lady who lives with several cats and reads those novels where a siamese cat solves crimes, I'm now in favor of more cat mysteries, or cozycats.

seanag said...

As to the packing, it goes, is all I can say. My moaning and groaning about it was put in perspective last night though when I was talking to my mom, who had just heard from a friend who had to flee the Santa Barbara fires. Imagine being eighty something and having to decide in a few short hours what to hold on to and what to let go out of a lifetime. Fortunately, though, her home survived.

seanag said...

Marco, keep us posted as you can. You might want to check out Peter R.'s thread on traditional mysteries, which has a lot on cozies for 'talking points'. Unless, being you, you already have.

le0pard13 said...

I was most surprised with Greenland being in 13+ liters category. But when 81% of your land mass is covered with ice sheets, nuff said.

Brian O'Rourke said...

I have nothing to add, except that beer is good. And good luck to Marco, of course.

adrian mckinty said...

Miss Witch

I think I'm right that even though the Icelanders are now going to join the EU, the Norwegians for whatever reason never will.

adrian mckinty said...

Leopard

I have to say though, I'd love to go to Greenland, it must be an amazing place.

adrian mckinty said...

Brian

Speaking of homebrew. I'm trying a new batch soon.


Marco

When's your new batch of brew?

adrian mckinty said...

Seana

I much preferred SC to further down and up the coast, although I went surfing once at Pacifica and that was nice. Small waves, lots of guys with grey beards.

seanag said...

Yes, it is it's own milieu. I lived in Carmel for a few years, off and on, and my mom lives there now, but they are worlds apart. It's not just the wealth of Carmel denizens, as there were actually quite a few working people living in pretty humble dwellings when I was there. But even though it was just on the south side of the same bay the climate, the politics and the feeling of it were very different. I liked it well enough. But somehow I always felt like I was out of the loop and away from the action there.

I do like the California coast, though. I suppose we should enjoy it while we can, as it will probably all fall away before too long.

I listened to an interesting radio show last night--an interview about our late and lamented California writer, James Houston. I have yet to read him, despite my promise and despite talking my reading group into doing the same. But more and more I'm realizing that he was a kind of touchstone of the local literary community and his loss is deeply felt here. I was really touched by the ending words of the interview about reading Houston and opening oneself to being a true Californian in soul and spirit. I totally got it for a minute because in point of fact, that's exactly what I am, and yet I do think there is a restlessness in the Californian psyche that makes one reluctant to leap to embrace that identity.

marco said...

I'll probably try to make my homebrew this fall, along with the wine.

marco said...

Thanks, Brian!

Brian O'Rourke said...

Adrian,

What are you whipping up this time? I'm going to brew another batch soon, not sure yet what it'll be.

adrian mckinty said...

Seana

Did you ever make it up to Pacifica? I liked it a lot the brief little time I was there. And I think I told you already that I also liked the campus of UCSC.

I suppose you know that Robert Heinlein lived nearby too.

adrian mckinty said...

Marco

Wine and beer at the same - doesnt seem right somehow, add whisky to that mix and you're really conjuring with evil spirits. (Definitely no pun intended)

adrian mckinty said...

Brian

Still in the final stages of making a decision. Obviously its going to be something dark (because its autumn down here). Thee's a Tasmanian dark lager which sounds intriguing and one of my old favourites a Burtonised IPA (pretty idiot proof that one which is what I may need after my last debacle). It'll be out in the shed so smell isnt an issue and the temp should be perfect. We'll see.

seanag said...

You know, I don't think I've ever really stopped in Pacifica--just been past it. But I know it was at one point a kind of alternative to Santa Cruz for people who'd grown up here and were hoping to somehow buy a home.

Yes, I'd heard about Heinlein's residency. I think there are a lot of writer types hiding up in those hills. A lot of my friends seem to be migrating up into the mountains recently--rents better, for one thing. But I don't know--I don't think it's really for me.

Brian O'Rourke said...

Good luck with the brew, man. Let me know how it turns out.