Sunday, January 16, 2011

Walking Out Of Movies

It must be that I'm an optimist. I always think that every movie I go to see could be brilliant. I don't read many reviews so I don't know a whole lot about the flick at the get go and usually, therefore, I waltz in on a surge of hope. Today I waltzed in and slunk out of Black Swan twenty five minutes later. Four star reviews all over the shop. Praise to the rafters. Oscar buzz for Natalie Portman. And the thing is I know the director's work. I know he's cheesy. But the good kind of cheesy I thought. Well, not this time. Black Swan is not a fine aged, blue veined roquefort but a reprocessed yellow brick from some Kraft bunker in an industrial park in Madison, WI. Black Swan's plot probably would have been rejected by the writers of Days Of Our Lives as "just a little bit silly," and as for the acting...think Se Busca Un Hombre or Maria of the Barrio or indeed any televnovela you happen to flip to while you're looking for the place where the Discovery Channel used to be.
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A couple of days ago when I was in New York I would have walked out of Sofia Coppola's Somewhere but for the fact that I was with my buddy Scott and we were going back down Broadway together. Somewhere has also gotten a lot of four star reviews and Oscar buzz. It's a remake of Coppola's own Lost in Translation with all the wit taken out. It begins with a fixed camera watching a car doing circuits of a race track. There are five circuits which take about seven or eight minutes to complete. Finally the male lead gets out of the car and has a think. Back in his hotel he picks up a pear and looks at it reflectively. Later still he stares off into the middle distance for some time perhaps wondering if maybe he should have had that pear after all. In a later scene in the same hotel room I noticed that the pear was gone which generated quite a bit of suspense for me.
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I know people who will never walk out of a movie. Yes they've paid a lot of money to see the show and probably they care about how things turn out, but once you walk out of a bad movie you feel ecstatic. The claustrophobia has gone, the teeth grinding has gone and you're free. The badder the movie the freer you feel. When I walked out of Avatar I felt like Nelson Mandela at the gates of Robben Island. Walking out of Black Swan today I merely felt like Paris Hilton after her 13 days in the LA County Pokey. It's hard to know what vibe I would have had if I'd walked out of Somewhere, because, unfortunately, I stayed right to the dreary, dull, bitter end, something I didn't do with the much better but still ridiculously overpraised Lost in Translation. Somewhere doesn't really end, of course, but instead just kind of peters out...And, spoiler alert, we never do find out what happened to the pear.

60 comments:

Girish Shahane said...

Speaking of petering out, when I first saw Lost in Translation, I couldn't get what Bill Murray says to Scarlett Johansson at the end.
I saw it on DVD after that, and the subtitle at that point said, "whispers incomprehensibly". I believe whispering incomprehensibly in the last shot of a film ought to be illegal.

seana said...

Girish, you are so last millennium with your idealistic comprehensible movie endings requirement.

I haven't seen Black Swan. I haven't seen anything. My situation with movies seems to be that I want to go, sort of, and I mean to go, sort of, but I don't go. I've heard more of a range of reviews on Black Swan--it seemed like all the initial ones I heard were bad but then people started to go and suddenly they all seemed to be good. Anyway, it's not on my list.

I know what happened to the pear, though. It was made into a delicious sort of apple crumble like dessert by a guy named Eduardo for a birthday party I attended last night.

I am really fortunate that I seem to have known a lot of men who can cook. It must be a sort of divine compensation.

dpougher said...

Seana,
I'm cooking my acclaimed paella tomorrrow for a bunch of friends. It'll be about 80 degrees and sunny, no locusts or floods I promise, so come along. Bring your bathers.

kathy d. said...

Yes, "whispers incomprehensibly" in any part of a movie should be illegal.

I've heard that "Black Swan" was not a good movie from friends, so I'll pass.

I did not particularly like "Lost in Translation." I thought a friend and I were the only ones who didn't, guess not. I didn't know what all of the hoopla was about on that movie. It passed me by. It was much ado about nothing actually.

Frankie said...

I thought the issue with Black Swan was going to be the quality of the dancing. I have been really looking forward to seeing this film. I love ballet, i go every year. Is Portman actually dancing?

Also, i love Lost in Translation. It has a real atmosphere. Not an easy one to deconstruct as it doesn't stick to the same old formula. Sofia Coppola's Marie Antoinette is also brillant. Beautiful shots of the Palace of Versailles set to the unlikely soundtrack of 1980's music.

seana said...

Thanks for the invite, Dave. If I could maybe swim there, I would.

I liked Lost in Translation as well. Didn't here enough good about the Marie Antoinette, though your mention of Versailles in it makes me want to see it.

Well, either that, or go back to Versailles.

adrian mckinty said...

Girish

I suppose it was the artsy thing to do, leaving us with the knowledge that life is ultimately unknowable or some such silliness.

adrian mckinty said...

Seana

Thats good to know about the pear because it would have been a shame if it had just rolled on the floor or something. I hope you ate your crumble with heavy cream.

adrian mckinty said...

David

The paella sounds good as does the weather. We'll be back in a few days just in time for the week long period above 40 degrees celsisus.

adrian mckinty said...

Kathy

Lost in Translation just wearied me in the end. It was harmless enough but nothing special. Somewhere is a disaster.

adrian mckinty said...

Frankie

I couldnt tell good dancing from bad dancing but histrionic acting does tend to stand out. I wonder if Natalie Portman peaked as an actress when she was about 13. Its beginning to look that way for me.

Frankie said...

I want to like Portman, but some of the films ive seen her in have been bad. She does the same anguished look in everything. I disagree with you on Lost in Translation though. I do, however know the relief you feel when you get up and leave a film or show. Ive watched many dodgy plays with my friends in, its a form of human torture.

John McFetridge said...

Lately I've been caught up in long conversations about movies I haven't seen but it's usually quite easy to fake it. Lost in Transalation just follows a different formula (apparently the same one as Somewhere). If the ending had actually said something instead of "Whispers incomprehensibly," that would have broken from its formula.

I usually out this down to being old and having seen a lot of movies. Once the formula reveals itself (and a locked off shot of a car driving around a track is a great indication we're going to be thinking for the next ninety minutes and not really doing much of anything or, you know, getting anywhere) it's just a matter of it playing out. So then I hope there's a really good soundtrack or something.

But mostly I'm like Seana, I mean to go but after a while I just feel like I have.

I'm going to try meaning to go and then meaning to walk out - maybe I'll feel liberated ;)

Frankie said...

"When I walked out of Avatar I felt like Nelson Mandela at the gates of Robben Island"

Thats funny as.

I'd walk out of films but these days you don't get much change out of a tenner. I will stay to the end to at least finish my popcorn.

adrian said...

John

On the fourth or fifth circuit of the track I did wonder if this was going to be the entire movie. Some kind of Andy Warhol like thing perhaps. So I was at least relieved when that bit ended.

Its very strange though that she would take the formula for Lost in Translation and make a less good version of it with pretty uncharismatic people.

adrian said...

Frankie

Its a hard pill to swallow when you've paid all that cash but sometimes its just so worth it.

I have a real problem watching live theatre, its this bizarre Tourettes like urge to say something to the actors. It stresses me out.

Peter Rozovsky said...

Were any pears harmed in the making of this movie?
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Frankie said...

Yep. Ive sat through theatre and just thought of all the things id rather be doing than watching this..like pulling hedgehog needles out of my butt ckeeks after accidentally sitting on one.

adrian said...

Peter

Thats the thing, we'll never really know the answer.

Driving in the car in San Francisco today. Heard two separate ads for her father's wines. So the grapes are harmed.

adrian said...

Frankie

No my problem is that I'm always wanting to shout "he's behind you!" and the like.

Peter Rozovsky said...

Does she make wines, too? A friend of mine who leads wine tastings said one of Sofia Coppola's wines may be the worst ever made. I wonder if he meant her father's.

rob.james said...

Saw Black Swan in Brissie last night after a long day hauling rubbish through ankle deep mud which is probably why I fell asleep about half an hour in.

I thought it was visually lovely so I may give it another go.

The last film I walked out of was a preivew of Round Ireland With A Fridge. It wasn't the lazy stereotypes but the complete lack of plot, acting ability or jokes.

Before that it was Blair Witch Project. I was so furious with how bad it was, I berated the cinema telling them they were idiots if they "stayed until the end of this pile of cold tramp sick". They banned me from the cinema after that

seana said...

Yes, the pear dish had cream and there were many grapes killed in the process as well. It was that kind of party.

The only movie I recall walking out of was The Immigrants and the New Land saga. By the end of four hours, things were looking pretty bleak for the heroes, and it wasn't like it had been exactly upbeat before. I left about fifteen minutes before the end, and felt perfectly happy to not see them through to the bitter end. Later I heard that it was not quite as dismal as I thought, but I didn't feel regretful.

Peter Rozovsky said...

I, on the other hand, have never been banned from a cinema, I'm sorry to say.
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Liam Hoyle said...

Vincent steals just about every movie he's part of. Surprised he didn't do it Black Swan. Based on your review, I'll probably not see it.

Glenna said...

I've never actually seen a movie at the theater I'd disliked bad enough to walk out of, though there have been some I wished I had. I tend to be more optimistic and tell myself "It has to get better", of course, I usually discover I've lied to myself too.

Girish Shahane said...

"I wonder if Natalie Portman peaked as an actress when she was about 13." Surely the precise high point of her career was when she, as Padme Amidala, said those immortal words to Anakin Skywalker, "Hold me, like you did on the lake on Naboo; so long ago when there was nothing but our love".

Girish Shahane said...

And speaking of Star Wars, why not put in a couple of your Tunisia anecdotes while the country's on everyone's radar. OK, 'everyone's' is an exaggeration, but still.

seana said...

I'd like to hear some of those Tunesia anecdotes right about now, too, Girish.

Brian O'Rourke said...

I will shy away from Somewhere then...sounds like Coppola was trying to invoke Tarkovsky's Slowaris (i.e. Solaris) with that interminable fifteen minute car ride.

adrian said...

Peter

There is a Sofia Coppola wine named after her made by her father.

adrian said...

Rob

Wow, if the international news is to be believed there's nothing left of Brisbane but a couple of shacks.

That Round Ireland film sounds a bit like Leap Year which I think had a similar vibe.

adrian said...

Liam

Yeah he was creepy in a good way unlike Barbara Hershey...

adrian said...

Girish

Have you ever seen the RedLetterMedia reviews of the Star Wars prequels on YouTube? They savage the "love story" dialogue. George Lucas has really acquired a tin ear over the yeras.

adrian said...

Girish

I'll say this for the late President of Tunisia. At least when I was there he really did make the trains run on time. And they had rather nice croissants on board too.

adrian said...

Glenna

Maybe you are just more careful about what you go see?

adrian said...

Seana

Well Leah and I did get lost in the desert at one point near the holy city of Kairouan. That was funny in retrospect but surprisingly alarming at the time.

adrian said...

Brian

Slow aint the word believe me. Did you ever read the book Solaris, one of my sci fi favourites.

Craig said...

Never walked out of a film but came very, very close with Transformers 2 and John Q. I also won't see a Meryl Streep movie in the theater because I'm pretty sure I'd walk out of it.

rob.james said...

Parts of Brisbane are worse than you see on the news. All you can see is brown and the smell is getting really bad. Three showers and I can still smell it on my skin. Ironically a good heavy downpour of rain would really help this week.

The atmosphere is weird. Its exactly like Jon Stewart's description of an Irish Wake
"I have never been sadder and laughed harder in my life."
ad for the losses but so many people are volunteering and so much work is being done so quickly that there is an almost party atmosphere.

Glenna said...

Adrian,

Possibly. Most likely because kids tend to really object if you try to take them out of a movie they're enjoying. The husband I rarely get to see a movie at the theater actually made for adults these days.

seana said...

Adrian, I don't see how being lost in the desert could be anything but alarming.

Rob, sorry, "Brissie" didn't catch my ear, and I thought you were just talking about some day labor sort of job you had picked up. I do remember that same kind of atmosphere after the earthquake here many years ago. Amidst the shock and sadness there is some kind of collective solidarity that kicks in and many good and strange things happen as well. What was really interesting was seeing how everyone snapped back to 'normal' as soon as they possibly could.

Peter Rozovsky said...

I found that a little عيد مبارك‎ went a long way in Tunisia.

My adventure there involved a retired archaeology professor breaking into a show tune from Oklahoma to help explain rivalries between shepherds and farmers in Punic days. The presidential palace was guarded a by solitary soldier, though we were told not to take pictures of him. And I do recall that the French-language newspapers were full of news about the president.

Oh, and I say a gorgeous woman loading up her shopping cart in the liquor section of a supermarket in Tunis.

Back in 2006, I made a blog post (with photos!) about my visit to Tunisia. One commenter wrote that “In Algeria, they used to say: When Algeria is a man (a warrior), Tunisia is a woman (peaceful)...”
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Peter Rozovsky said...

I do remember that same kind of atmosphere after the earthquake here many years ago. Amidst the shock and sadness there is some kind of collective solidarity that kicks in and many good and strange things happen as well. What was really interesting was seeing how everyone snapped back to 'normal' as soon as they possibly could.

Adrian Hyland wrote touchingly of how quickly a local school reopened after the terrible fires two years ago.
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seana said...

Nice Tunesia comments, Peter.

Yes, you can understand why people would crave normalcy. But on the other hand, that kind of gap had a lot of possibilities in it as well.

kathy d. said...

Pear anything is wonderful.

"Lost in Translation," wasn't harmful; it was boring. Two alienated people meet...and?

I wanted to say "read a book," have an intelligent discussion, go and do something substantive.

Solution to spending money on movies is to wait until they are in dvd format, then go to the library and borrow them for free. It just requires waiting, and hopefully, your local library has dvd's available.

Mine does, and quickly.

bookwitch said...

Slept through Pokemon. Couldn't leave because of small person next to me.

Have often thought re my local cinema, that I could walk out of one auditorium and try one of the other films, since no on seems to check on anything once you're through the barrier. And if I've paid...

adrian said...

Rob

That sounds really tough. As you know I've been to Brisbane a couple of times on day trips up from Surfers Paradise. Always seemed like a brilliant city. I hope things get back to normal soon.

adrian said...

Craig

I've never seen any of the Transformers movies, however the trailer for Transformers 3 looked so mad as to be actually quite good.

adrian said...

Seana

Now I'm reading that the Presidential Guard is battling the army in the streets of Tunis which is like something from ancient Rome. I wonder if the French will be tempted to get involved.

adrian said...

Peter

I remember those posts. Excellent stuff. Although if I recall we disagreed about the delights of Sidi Bou Said.

adrian said...

Kathy

Alas my local library does get DVDs but they are normally so scratched as to be almost unwatchable. Watching on iTunes is my second recourse.

adrian said...

Miss Witch

The last film I took the kids to was Entangled and we all thought it was pretty good.

adrian said...

Oh and I see Natalie Portman wins the Golden Globe for Best Actress which feels about right to me, considering the cheese fest which is the Golden Globes. I wonder how she can accept with a straight face after seeing Winter's Bone.

Peter Rozovsky said...

I think the number of beverage vendors had multiplied since the time you had visited Sidi Bou Syed. To be fair, though, I did buy drink from one of them.

And if I owned a house in Sidi Bou Syed, like celebrated old one that we visited, I would have a cool and peaceful refuge from the vendors.
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Jeffrey said...

It seems to me as you think quite highly of yourself, as almost elitist, for walking out of films. You scoff at those who stay for the duration as if we're some sort of uninformed proletariat. Perhaps I'm reflecting the elitist I see in myself. Regardless, it's revolting.

adrian said...

Jeff

Not sure that I follow your logic. I'm completley fine with those who stay, those who go, those who dont go at all. The only thing that brings out the elitist in me is my refusal to drink bad beer.

seana said...

I took it more as a helpful suggestion, personally. However, I went to see The King's Speech tonight and that is one I wouldn't have dreamed of walking out on. Very good.

As I've said before, my problem seems to be more about walking into movies than walking out of them.

kathy d. said...

Basic movie goers' creed; the right to walk out of any movie at any time.

Too many movies to see, books to read, family/friend time to be enjoyed...not worth wasting one's time with something one does not like.

It's like the right to stop reading a book one dislikes intensely; no point in that.

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