You always know how a Cormac McCarthy novel is going to end. The strong man will vanquish the weak man. The man more versed in knife fighting will best the novice. The man with the shotgun bandoleer will save the child of the man armed only with an empty pistol. The bald headed immortal will kill the illiterate wastrel who is the witness to his crimes. And it's always men doing the killing. Women seldom appear and when they do they're usually doing the dying or being fought over like heroines of the silent screen....
I've been reading Cormac McCarthy since the 1980's when I discovered Child of God in high school. I tore through his Tennessee novels and his Texas novels and his crime novel and at the weekend I finished his science fiction novel The Road. I've had misgivings about McCarthy's plots before (I've never liked the scene where they make gunpowder in Blood Meridian) but never about his prose. McCarthy writes as though its the 1640's and he's a pamphleteer warning a nervous populace that the apocalypse is imminent. His words are careful, atavistic, beautiful. His sentences are as crisp as haiku, his chapters as epic as Miltonian books.
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The Road begins seven or eight years after a comet has struck the Earth. Society everywhere has collapsed. Chaos reigns. And by chaos I mean cannibalism, slavery, murder, rape; the only organisation that seems to exist in this entropic, Hobbesian war of all against all is from isolated bands of anarchists who may or may not be benign. Into a wasted landscape (where photosynthesis has ceased and most animal phyla are extinct) a man and a boy are heading south before the brutal winter comes. The man can barely keep going, but he has to as the boy's mother has cut her throat in despair not too long before the book begins. The weak mother has failed her child but the resourceful father will not give up. In wonderful scenes he finds hidden springs, apples from an orchard, an old can of Coke and fuel for a fire. He gives everything to the boy and they dodge marauders and enslavers and those terrifying cannibals.
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The story is as harrowing as any Cormac McCarthy novel since Outer Dark but the prose is just as carefully wrought as his previous works. McCarthy thinks long and hard about how a word will sound in a sentence and if the word doesn't quite work he'll find a better one. I listened to The Road as an audiobook and there were times when it was like being privy to some secret ceremony in which magic spells were being chanted for my ears alone. Often the book would get too much and I'd have to unplug my iPod and listen to the silence for a while.
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Having said that though, I knew how the story was going to finish - though it (spoiler alert) turned out to be the Far From the Madding Crowd in McCarthy's rather Hardyesque universe. And of course all of my problems with McCarthy the artist are still there. The urban is disdained, the rural worshipped, women in The Road are the strange, enfeebled creatures beloved of patriarchal religion, while the male lead is the strong, silent type who - of course - is good with his hands. Mussolini would have enjoyed this book and doubtless The Road is a best seller among survivalists. No, Mussolini isn't quite the person I'm looking for. Nietzsche is closer to the mark - the great German prose stylist par excellence who also dismissed women, townies, the weak and people who talked too much; McCarthy - in a different branch of Germanic - treads through similar terrain. Although he's probably America's greatest living novelist with more poetic depth, lyricism and psychological insight than his contemporaries, his adulation of strength does get a bit wearisome after a while and I can't even imagine what the poor love thinks of a film like Brokeback Mountain. I do recommend The Road (and the other McCarthy novels) but I was quite relieved when it was over and as an antidote I watched Annie Hall - there the guy doesn't quite win either, but he doesn't have to hit anyone to show that he's a man; and he's funny.
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Somehow I've managed to avoid Cormac McCarthy up to now and your review doesn't make me want to change that.
I think it's the women. Or maybe the worshipping of the rural. Or the loners.
I know, I should really give it a try but I have a hard time with anything that's popular with the survivalists.
Great post! The Road was an amazing experience. I too listened to the audio book on a long road trip. I can't help but hope that Viggo and company will give us a proper adaptation. John, if you haven't read any McCarthy, I'd still recommend The Road for it's visceral "realness," if for nothing else. I didn't think it was sexist, but merely that the story focused on the man and his boy. It's so intense, physically and emotionally, that it reminded me of Jon Krakauer's Into Thin Air or another great survival story, Steven Callahan's Adrift, though those two are more journalism than the epic, poetic novel that Adrian has already described so well.
I don't know about Cormac McCarthy, but I just spent some time on your blog, Hardbarned, and I'd like to read your novels.
My first McCarthy novel was BLOOD MERIDIAN, about six months ago. I loved the writing at first, but was eventually repulsed by the unending bleakness and violence. I thought it was the ugliest book I had read since Ellroy's THE COLD SIX THOUSAND. Based on Adrian's review and Hardbarned's comments, I think I'll give him another chance.
But not today.
Cor....Mick McCarthy - i wanna read him, I'm still trying to found out why it all went wrong in Saipan 2002, did you ever see a more lame bunch of penalties in your life? 6 years on and I'm still not over it
Eh...what....the wrong McCarthy?
Sorry.
If anyone's got a spare copy of the orchard keeper, I'll swap ya for.....the heaven of mercury (brad watson) - still scratching my head trying to figure how that ended up on my shelf.Answers on a postcard...no I've got it,it was blurbed by Larry Brown....anyone read Joe or Dirty Work? He was a great writer.
Colman
Thanks John! That's awesome of you to say! I've not finished a book yet but am currently adapting Hardbarned into a memoir of sorts; I'm thinking of throwing in some little known facts on peculiar local histories from the areas I've written about.
Reading your blogs makes me realize how I know next to nothing of the cannon of crime fiction. With the exception of a handful of Fredrick Forsythe novels in high school and Adrian's kick ass Dead trilogy, I'm a newb, as they say. Perhaps you and Adrian could collaborate and give folks like me a top ten list for crime fiction that must be read, aside from your own novels, of course!
Hardbarned
Yeah I did enjoy The Road as I've enjoyed all the C McC, but I think my favourite books are probably the Tennessee ones among all those redneck Ulster Scots.
Hmmm, a top 10. How about 10 authors in rough chronological order.
1. Hammett 2. Chandler 3. Cain 4. Highsmith 5. Himes 6. McBain 7. Leonard 8. Ellroy 9. Bruen 10. McFetridge
John
You'd probably like Outer Dark, Child of God, Suttree and The Orchard Keeper - the earlier books. And I loved All The Pretty Horses too from his Texas phase.
Colman
Lemme know how you get on with The Old Devils. I do think you'll like it but you might not.
McCarthy thinks long and hard about how a word will sound in a sentence and if the word doesn't quite work he'll find a better one.I listened to The Road as an audiobook and there were times when it was like being privy to some secret ceremony in which magic spells were being chanted for my ears alone. Often the book would get too much and I'd have to unplug my iPod and listen to the silence for a while.
The idea of audiobooks never appealed to me (even when I listen to music,I let my mind wander,I'd have no patience to listen for hours to a narration) but you argued a pretty good case.
Having said that,I'm not sure I entirely agree with your points-more than celebration of strength I see an Old Testament view of the potential for evil and destruction,and the fact that in real life
The strong man will vanquish the weak man. The man more versed in knife fighting will best the novice.
these things routinely happen,and there's no divine intervention to save the underdog just because we empathize with him.
Dana
Didnt you at least like the scene when the Apaches descend upon the wedding party, rape and kill everyone and the brave rides off wearing the bloody wedding dress?
Marco
Yeah but in real life 80 percent (and growing) of all humans live in cities and most of our interactions and success in life depend upon our intelligence, wit and charm not upon our knife fighting skills.
But he does write about situations that have parallels in the real world:Uganda,Congo,Sudan,Colombia,a lot of war/dirty war scenarios,and even zones in more or less democratic countries where the State is weak and other powers control the territory.
On the urban/rural juxtaposition,unless you think McCarthy really glorifies violence aproblematically,it's exactly this primal brutality that undercuts a vision of the country as superior.
But "Urban" has its problem also.
And in our world,the fact that 80% and growing of all humans live in cities also means unsustainable and polluted monsters like Mexico City,slums and favelas in Africa or South America,forced internal migration of millions in China,immigrant ghettoes in the major European cities,etc.
Marco
Yeah prime material for Mr. McCarthy you would have thought but he wouldnt go near a city with a ten foot pole. Shame too, because he could write a great Mexico City novel.
And as for the first world city experience? I dont think we'll see the Cormac McCarthy novel about the guy who manages to scam an extra ride out of his travel card which for most of us would be a triumphant moment.
Have you seen Slumdog Millionaire? I havent but the Missus did and loved it.
Adrian, you wrote:
Didnt you at least like the scene when the Apaches descend upon the wedding party, rape and kill everyone and the brave rides off wearing the bloody wedding dress?
Yeah, okay, but you have to admit, not all the book had this much levity.
Dana
True, there was some dark stuff in there too.
Have you seen Slumdog Millionaire? I havent but the Missus did and loved it.
No.Hope you won't hold that too much against me,but I've never been a great moviegoer (yes,there are other ways now,I know)-don't think I reach double figures in a year.
Always been more of a music/books kind of guy.You'd be surprised how many classics I haven't seen.
There is very little McCarthy I can comment on. I had a friend at work who was very into those early McCarthy's like Blood Meridian and Suttree, etc. But since I came into the McCarthy universe through All the Pretty Horses, and could not distinguish it really from a Big Valley episode, or maybe High Chapparal, since that was the one with more of a Mexico theme, I really could not understand what all the fuss was about. I don't know what I think of him as a stylist. Very clear, probably, but that somehow isn't quite enough.
Ah, nice antidote. For years now, I've been slapping nickels on my forehead and saying: "Joey Nichols! Joey Five Cents! (What an asshole!)"
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You know, James M. was the second-best crime-writing Cain.
OK, Paul really only wrote one sort-of novel, but if he'd written a few more as good as The Fast One, the Chandler-Hammett debate would be over which was second-best to Paul Cain.
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Seana
The High Chapparall (sic?). Man I loved that dumb show and it was proof that if you were a fat elderly white guy totally lacking in charm or charisma you could still end up with a feisty latina lady.
Peter
Dont know the work of P Cain but I'll have a peep.
Among many other favourite lines
"I'm into leather."
"Dwayne why dont you give them a ride to the airport."
"And such small portions"
etc.
Marco
Goodfellas, Apocalypse Now, type of classics or High Noon, Vertigo type of classics?
Yep, Dwayne might be Christopher Walken's best role. I haven't seen "Annie Hall" in years, but back in the day I saw it about eighteen times and, without trying, had memorized large chunks of the dialogue: "Alvy Singer here!"
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Marco
Goodfellas, Apocalypse Now, type of classics or High Noon, Vertigo type of classics?
Amazingly,I've seen all four,which seems to undermine my argument.
I suppose you meant older or newer classics.
My point is that I don't go to the movies that often and I've never rented/bought VHS/DVDs so I mostly see films when they come round on TV or some of my friends lends me something s/he really enjoyed.
So I may have seen many classics and a few obscure but highly regarded films,but I've lot of gaps too.
marco, seana
In an attempt to post a YouTube of The High Chaparrall I accidentally found this surreal video of line dancing at a wild west theme park in Sweden. There are so many good moments, the skinny girl who casually joins at the start, the woman with the baby in the Baby Bjorn who has to join in, the Six foot six crazy cowboy near the end, the kid going past on his bicycle oblivious, people walking past in Cowboy hats. And they're all Swedes. Aweseome.
Peter
I think the above youtube is also a good antidote to C McC, to think that the terrifying Norsemen ended up doing that is a very cheerful thought.
Yep, Dwayne might be Christopher Walken's best role. I haven't seen "Annie Hall" in years, but back in the day I saw it about eighteen times and, without trying, had memorized large chunks of the dialogue: "Alvy Singer here!"
Large chunks? Why do I think you had the whole thing memorized, Peter?
And here's something only Peter will appreciate - in 1970, during the October Crisis, I went to the Montreal Forum to see the Junior Canadiens play the Soviet National team. It was pretty much exactly the same Soviet team that would come back in '72 except for the goalie. Tretiak replaced the one I saw that night, A. Singer.
In my head he's always been Alvy Singer, but I really don't know what the A stood for.
John, A. Singer was the guy who wore thick glasses over his goalie's mask, wasn't he?
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"Why do I think you had the whole thing memorized, Peter?"
That would imply effort and, hence, nerdiness.
Apropos of nothing,but this talk of Montreal and ice hockey reminded me that a now-Quebecoise girl from my hometown sung the Canadian National Anthem at the 2007 NHL all-star game.
Not that I particularly like her music,but she's a nice girl.
Marco
Well if you that's the game you want to play, a college housemate of mine's father wrote High Noon. And she wrote Georgiana which has just been filmed as a Keira Knightly movie.
My point was more "it's a small world,isn'it" than "I know people".
I couldn't possibly compete with someone who has seen Jeff Goldblum's penis IN REAL LIFE.
Marco
Another Annie Hall connection. Nice.
Yeah but remember one man's cool is another man's huh? I remember finding a signed copy of Norman Lewis's Naples 44 in a bookshop once and thinking that it was so cool, but the book sore owner couldn't care less and charged me 1 dollar - and no one I've ever met has ever heard of Norman Lewis. Dec Burke is the only person I know who's as crazy about Patrick Fermor as I am. Cool is such a personal thing.
And of course I'd trade my signting of the Goldblum schlong IN REAL LIFE for lunch with Shatner.
The Goldblum Schlong was one of Robert Ludlum's best books.
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Marco
In imminent expectation of books whats your email and mailing addresses?
this time I'll write em down.
Lunch with Shatner. A friend of mine was the maintenance guy in an office building in Montreal and one day a nice woman told him she was Captain Kirk's mother. My friend said, "Sure, but TJ Hooker's an orphan, isn't he."
Peter,
Sure, memorization feats equate to nerdiness now, but in the post-apocalyptic future that books like The Road prophesy, the same ability will make you into a demigod. In fact, to those starved minds, you will in fact be Woody Allen or Cormac McCarthy or whoever you want to be, because it's not like those poor sods are going to be able to argue with you.
In fact, if you want, you can be Adrian McKinty if you start memorizing Fifty Grand now. It's not like Adrian won't be surviving somewhere--well, we all know where, and it rhymes with Tasmanian Berry Farm--but it's not like he's going to be in any position to sue or come after you or anything.
Unless he does.
Adrian,
Well, High Chapparal was really more of my sister's show. I was thinking she had a big crush on Henry Darrow, who played 'Manolito', but in fact, once I looked at the cast of characters, I realized that her heart could only ever really belong to Cameron Mitchell, who played 'Buck Cannon'. Yeah, that's right. Buck Cannon. There is quite a, well, lively website devoted to the history of the cast here .
Me, I was really more of a Big Valley, Lee Majors fan, and they did have a two part episode that I know featured a Gatling gun in a highly stereotypical Mexican village, mounted on the top of a church or something, and of course a lovely senorita, etc. I was very smitten with Lee Majors back then, pre-Six Million Dollar Man days, playing the bastard son with a chip on his shoulder, but my other sister, who caught this all in still later reruns, was taken with Nick, the loud, slightly loutish, but very direct brother. No one, seemed to be all that smitten with Jarrod, the older, sensible, lawyerly brother, who served mostly to get them all out of trouble. And of course, it didn't hurt that the household, under the powerful sway of Victoria Barkley, i.e., Barbara Stanwyck, was basically a matriarchy.
You know, in retrospect, it's kind of surprising that none of ended up marrying cowboys. Or at least buying a spread of our own.
Although after seeing that crazy cowboy on the High Chapparal YouTube video, I think maybe we haven't made such bad choices in the end.
I had never heard of High Chaparral before and now Gerard mentions it in his latest Tale from the Sweety Bottle.
It's either synchronicity or the programmer of our simulation is having fun with us.
When you have lunch with him you could ask his opinion on the Youtube video I linked before Christmas,you know,the one with the Nine Inch Nails music.
Isn't Shatner a bit of an asshole,or I shouldn't trust the impression I've got from rapidly skimming Star Trek articles on Sci-fi blogs?
In imminent expectation of books whats your email and mailing addresses?
this time I'll write em down.
marcolin(at)lillinet.org
or
giubbani(at)alice.it
Marco Giubbani
Via Nazionale 149
54011 Aulla (MS)
Italy
I'll probably wait for the paper version to read Fifty Grand,but as soon you send me the e-text of DIWMB I'll begin to compare it with the book,so if you have recovered your computer send me both.
Peter
Oh yeah I saw that movie. Peckinpah directed it and Rutger Hauer played the lead. Very early 80's vibe, but I liked the, er, happy ending.
Marco
Apparently they're in Sydney and should be here on Tuesday (Monday is AUSTRALIA DAY!!!!) (no I dont know what it means either).
Seana
I'm glad everyone in the family saw through the feckless charm of Blue. Big charisma suck that kid. I liked Manuelito I thought he was cool. I always thought he and the wife had a thing going on. Would have made perfect sense.
Those Swedes were nuts
John
You didnt catch that ice haka thing I posted in Peter's site? It was utterly ridiculous.
You didnt catch that ice haka thing I posted in Peter's site? It was utterly ridiculous.
I'd say it ought to be on Haka Night in Canada, but McKinty doesn't like puns.
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It would have been a little odd for prime time television if Manolito had had a thing going on with Victoria, at least back in that era, seeing as he was supposed to be her brother.
And yes, those Swedes are so crazy, they don't even have any idea that they're crazy. They're so low key about the whole thing.
Oh he was the brother was he?
Buck was kind of a skivoza but I suppose that was part of the charm.
Victoria though could have done much much better.
Yeah, I think Buck was kind of a skivoza, and I don't even know what that means. I'm not saying either of my sisters had the greatest taste in fictional men, but none of us were ever into the smarmy boy band types, i.e. Blue, either.
I am not sure you are exactly seeing Victoria's master plan here. She didn't marry John Cannon because he was hot, she married him to get back some stolen Mexican real estate.
Funny I was reminded recently of The Road after reading this very different take on somewhat the same situation .
I LOVE the book “No Country for Old Men,” but it’s the only McCarthy book I’ve read and I didn’t know he uses a similar formula in all his books. That’s a shame since his writing is very inspired and lyrical, as you wrote in the blog, Adrian.
Woody Allen may not hit to show he’s a man, but he showed he's no mensch by sleeping with the quasi-daughter he helped raise since her childhood. He’s brilliant and *very* funny, but has the moral fortitude of a junkyard dog.
(As stated in an earlier blog comment, Woody Allen is the poster child for my need to separate artist from the art – otherwise, I’d miss out on some of my very favorite art.)
Marco
That was very good. Very Ballardian - all those jump cuts and the clinical descriptions. I liked that.
Holden
I wasn't really talking about Woody himself, I was talking about the character he plays in Annie Hall, Alvie Singer.
I completely agree, Woody is a very creepy man. Frank Sinatra asked Mia Farrow if he should send someone round to break his kneecaps. She showed remarkable restraint in turning him down.
Yea, Alvie takes the high road in Annie Hall, as do the characters Isaac in Manhattan and Allan in Play it Again, Sam. Come to think of it, that’s probably true of most of the characters Woody Allen fashions after himself. Interesting.
You have to be pulling my leg about Frank Sinatra... or are you? I told you I've got SUCKER written on my forehead. Very funny either way.
Holden
Nope, that's a true story. And you have to be impressed that she refused his kind offer. Although seeing how a similar plan worked out for Tonia Harding maybe it was just as well.
I had heard that Sinatra/Farrow/Allen story, too, though I have no way of verifying whether it really happened. I'd trust Adrian, though. He knows and hangs with the celebs, as you'd well know from reading "Fifty Grand."
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I'm not a huge fan of Sinatra as a human being either, and between him and Allen it would be hard to judge. Actually, I think Allen would come out ahead, as I'd tend to choose the seducer over the thug. But one thing that did make me feel some human fellow feeling toward Old Blue Eyes was a magazine article I saw probably some design thing about his home which showed him voraciously reading. He was one of those people, apparently, who get the reading bug later in life--I think Bruce Springstein may be another--and like to think of it as part of his process of individuation.
I thought the only thing Sinatra got late inb life was a liking for Richard Nixon.
Earlier in life, he was apparently admirable in his insistence on fair treatment for African American musicians.
Seana
I think Bruce is on the path. I dont know anything about him but I think he is.
Well, that's good to know. I don't really think, however, that Sinatra was one to come all high and mighty in the area of older men and much younger women, though. I suppose the kneecapping was a kind of belated peace offering for his bad behavior in the late stages of his own marriage.
Peter
I think your batting average with the rich and famous is a good few points above me, even if its just at the Philly library. My wife though thinks she saw Rachel Griffiths at the St Kilda Aventure playground.
Seana
I see what you're saying, but even in Hoboken you dont marry your own adopted daughter.
It might be confusing but my comment was actually about Peter's comment. What path exactly do you think the Boss is on?
I like that he was a big fan of Walker Percy and also the American trilogy of Philip Roth. I like Springstein, but I never took the leap to total fandom that some of my friends did.
Seana
I dont know. I just get the feeling that, like Bob Dylan, he's on an inward journey. Maybe I'm wrong, like I say, I know almost nothing about him.
I see what you're saying, but even in Hoboken you dont marry your own adopted daughter.
Even if her name is Mary, Candy or Wendy.
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My friends would agree with you. And if you don't know much about him, ie on him, that speaks well of him, because somehow I think you'd know the dirt.
I didn't like it much when he became The Boss and didn't say, hey folks, I'm only a really great balladeer, singer and showman and not the boss of anybody, but that's just me.
Adrian, I have made both Susan Sontag and Fran Lebowitz laugh, and I had dinner with Ruth Dudley Edwards and Stuart Neville this week (he drank a Newcastle Brown), but you are decidedly more A-list than I am in the matter of celebrities.
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Don't forget Dario Fo,Peter.
Though Seana is probably ahead.
Did he ever run a country? One of Adrian's old univesity instructors might.
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Peter
Yeah that's true. One of my old professors was Michael Ignatieff who may one day be PM of Canada. Nice chap but a bit of a space cadet I thought back then. I'm sure he's changed.
More significantly perhaps my old tutor at Oxford Vernon Bogdanor was also David Cameron's tutor. Bogdanor said that Cameron was the finest student he ever had. What did he say about me?
Nothing. Nada. Diddly squat.
Seana
It would be great if T Bone Burnett said, "well actually I'm a vegetarian."
Marco
I dont recall you mentioning any brushes with fame though there must have been some.
Peter
Oh perfectly respectible choice of brew from Neville I thought.
More significantly perhaps my old tutor at Oxford Vernon Bogdanor was also David Cameron's tutor. Bogdanor said that Cameron was the finest student he ever had. What did he say about me?
Nothing. Nada. Diddly squat.
Nothing blurb-worthy, eh?
Hey, here's a piece of news: A fellow guest at the B&B where I stayed in Indianapolis got all excited when she saw me reading Stuart's book, which she had loved, and even more excited when I told her that I run an international crime fiction blog. Why do I bother telling you this? Because she's a librarian who buys books for Cleveland's libraries and was at Bouchercon to make orders. I recommended Stuart, Garbhan Downey and you, and she now also has my entire blog as a resource.
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No, I think all of you travel in more rarified circles than I do, your impressions to the contrary. My sister however meets famous people all the time, but that's chiefly her locale.
Also, she may have a kind of knack for it without really trying.
I dont recall you mentioning any brushes with fame though there must have been some.
Well, there was that time I scored a goal at Villa Park oops no that wasn't me, I barely scored goals in Villafranca . It seems I'm fame proof, or maybe fame retardant.
No, I think all of you travel in more rarified circles than I do
You don't need to travel, because the rarified circles spin around you. Santa Cruz is the center of the universe.
Well, it likes to think it is sometimes, anyway. And today, gorgeous as it is out, I can't find the will to argue the point.
I should say in Springstein's favor that he didn't ever say, "Call me The Boss". My friends who are the most ardent fans actually got on to him before he ever hit that level--I believe they first saw him in some tiny club in Germany when they were working over there. It's just that when I was exposed to it all later, it was with the Born in the U.S.A. album and he had jumped to a whole new level and was filling stadiums and such and it all seemed a bit too much to me. He seems to have handled stardom pretty well though, and it's a pretty big test of character.
He and I would be simpatico on our literary tastes, I think. And that's a lot.
Peter
I think he may have said something about my tardiness from time to time.
I got a good review once in the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
Marco
Its funny, you have no idea how close you are to solving the mystery of the Villa Park goal I scored once. The clues are in this thread. Thats all I can say.
Seana
But dont you know The Corrections guy and his wife, which kind of means that you know Oprah who knows everybody.
Cleveland, as Ian Hunter said, really does rock. I think it's very cool that this woman loved Stuart's book, that she was interesting in broadening the library's crime-fiction holdings, that she was in a position to do so, and that she was doing it via her computer even while at Bouchercon.
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Peter
Its just a shame its such a niche market. I'll bet that one of those Cat Who Came To Breakfast books sells more than all the Irish crime fiction writers put together.
Actually I'll bet Dan Brown sells more books in Ireland than all the Irish crime writers put together.
Which reminds I really should update The Lost Squirrel, I'm sure there's a lot of fascinating insights Robert Langdon can share about swimming pools, towels, showers etc.
Unfortunately, it works both ways. That Corrections guy might have made an enemy of Oprah, so technically speaking I might now be the enemy of everyone.
Bummer.
Which reminds I really should update The Lost Squirrel,
Careful! He is watching you .
Seana
True the wrath of O cant be a good thing.
Marco
Well there are none in Australia, although possums adequately fill that ecological niche and then some.
That squirrel, though trying to be evil,is still pretty cute.
I think evil possums is where I came into this discussion, actually.Must be my totem or something.
Slightly less cute, the scorpion I've found in my room today. Italian scorpions aren't dangerous for humans, but it was a big one.
No, I didn't kill it.
Seana
Well evil is a bit strong, but certainly crafty.
Marco
Thanks to St Patrick we dont have that problem in Ireland.
St. Patrick drove out the scorpions? I'd only heard about snakes.
I've just been reading Wallace Stegner's All the Little Live Things, and his protagonist, Joe Allston, does persistently call the pests and blights of the natural world 'evil', though of course there is another character who persists in seeing nature as 'good'. Neither point really wins the day, but I had a hard time thinking of a gopher as evil incarnate just because it had pulled down a tomato plant. Irritating, definitely.
I would not like to discover any kind of scorpion in my house, Marco, harmful to humans or not.
There's a famous and oft quoted (ie ridiculed) passage by Terry Goodkind - someone who apparently writes Ayn Rand inspired High Fantasy (now that's an enticing description) in which the incarnation of evil appears in the form of a chicken
A bit of google and voila this little gem - the chicken as evil manifest.
Seana
Dont they have giant sealions lounging on the beach at SC? Or is that just further along? They seem like a bit of a menace.
Marco
God that was horrible. I had a student who was always raving about Goodkind, I wish I'd known about the chicken thing back then.
The sealions lounge on the wharf, but below deck, and are actually a big tourist attraction. There are sea elephants a bit further north at Ano Nuevo, and they are an even bigger tourist attraction, but since they only come during breeding season, they will charge those who get too close. They can apparently move quite fast for a giant fat thing without real legs.
Long time fan of both McCarthy and McKinty, first time commenter. Usually the more experienced knife fighter beats the novice in McCarthy's novels, true. But John Grady Cole killed the more experienced Eduardo, living a little longer himself. And Billy Parham, when he comes looking for John Grady afterward, makes short work of one of Eduardo's knife-wielding fellow pimps
Anon
I loved All The Pretty Horses. Really loved that book. Almost as much as I loved Blood Meridian which is one of my favourite American novels since WW2. However, I've got to admit that I was a bit gutted and angry with McCarthy with the way things turned out in books 2 and 3 or the Border Trilogy. I feel about them the way I feel about Alien 3 and 4. There's lots to admire but I kind of wish they dont exist.
And on a related note, when exactly are they going to make that Ridley Scott version of Blood Meridian?
Seana
That aounds a hell of a lot more scary than a little scorpion.
Well, it would be, but on the whole, more avoidable.
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