First, I commend anyone who's willing to be filmed with a fish-eye lens for 3 years every damn minute of the day. (Note to self: Important! Don't forget to get dressed before going into living room.)
Second, very cool project.
Third, not so keen on some of the Hunt for Red October music in the first third of the piece.
Last, this is the kind of thing my girlfriend does, but for Natgeo TV. She's working on something involving fertility and animals in captivity right now. (Did you know male walruses are aroused by the sound of power tools?) Also a series on the brain, which is pretty fascinating.
Thanks for putting this up, Mr. McKinty. Hope all is grand.
Isnt everyone aroused by the sound of power tools? At least everyone with a Nascar moustache.
Sounds like your girlfriend has a very cool job. There are two National Geographic shows I'm addicted to: Banged Up Abroad and Air Crash Investigation. The first is a testament to human stupidity and the second to the fragility of human life - one washer fails and everyone's toast.
I never tire telling the story that my daughter's first word was dada, which I'm pretty sure was a reference to me not the 1920's art movement headed by Tristan Tzara.
I think she was probably just trying to say water.
It's an interesting experiment, but I didn't really learn anything from it that we haven't all learned just from experience.It would have been interesting if the child had some totally unexpected source of knowledge, like Dr. Who appearing secretly in the middle of the night or something.
I also think it's kind of a funny thing to use your own life as raw data. Not wrong, but just an interesting choice. Not crazy about the electrode-capped kid, though I have to admit he didn't seem to mind.
I was thinking pretty much what Seana said, although she said it better.
Also, humans aren't the only ones to use speech and language. My husbands psychology professor had a rather smart African Grey parrot that could talk and even somewhat reason. Some of the stories he told were pretty interesting, and amazing.
I think its kind of incredible that at the age of two you have these blobs in your house who dont do much but at the age of five you have these strange sentient creatures with their own opinions and ideas, often in complete variance to your own.
My cousin was very fortunate to attend the recent TED conference in Long Beach. He really liked Deb Roy's presentation, but this one with Sarah Kay was his favorite:
It took me a minute to re-read that. The prof told stories aboutthe parrot. One of my favorites was when the prof brought the parrot to my husbands class and gave the parrot a bite of apple and asked the parrot what it was. The parrot said apple. The prof then gave him a bite of banana and asked the parrot what it was. The parrot said banana. Next the prof held up a pear and told the class he hadn't taught the parrot the name for the fruit. He gave the parrot a bite and asked the parrot what it was. The parrot said banapple. The prof guessed because it was roundish like an apple but soft like the banana and since the parrot didn't have a name for it he combined the two he knew.
Assuming this link wirks since im posting from my Ipod, this is a cute little video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rfGEtALHYs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
For Glenna, Was this the famous grey parrot Alex, star of tv and books?
I saw Alex on tv. When he was tired of naming shapes and colors, he climbed up the technician's arm, nibbled on his neck and said, "I want dinner."
The technician said, "Not now, later." That parrot was annoyed at that and chewed a bit more on the guy's neck.
He did reason and listen.
And on young children: I hear a neighbor's four-year-old disagreeing with and correcting her parents all of the time. Quite amazing.
And on "dada," I have heard from reliable sources that "d" is an easier letter than most for young children to say, or as a relative of mine said, "the all purpose 'D.'" As in that green fruit, "the diwi," as a 2-year-old I know used to say.
I do feel bad that I haven't watched your video, Adrian, but I wish to concur - it is simply incredible that so many little people learn to talk so well. Just spend a few years with someone who struggles, and you'll stop taking it for granted ASAP. It is damn miraculous that more things don't go wrong.
That isnt the parrot that whats her name who lives with the monkeys came to see, is it? I saw a video of that on a plane once and it was pretty amazing. She asked (Jane Goodall??) if she'd come in a taxi and they had a bit of a conversation.
It is amazing. I think its cool that you can get off a plane in any foreign country and using English can pretty much get any taxi driver to take you where you want to go.
I wasn't sure if you meant the kids thought the parents were blobs, or the parents thought the kids were blobs, but I never found even babies particularly unsentient. The thing I think is cool is when you kind of catch very little kids when they don't know you are watching and they reveal something of their interior and separate life. Something beyond just interacting with outer stimulus. It's kind of the moment when you realize they aren't babies anymore.
I was born and grew up in Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland. After studying philosophy at Oxford University I emigrated to New York City where I lived in Harlem for seven years working in bars, bookstores, building sites and finally the basement stacks of the Columbia University Medical School Library in Washington Heights.
In 2000 I moved to Denver, Colorado where I taught high school English and started writing fiction in earnest. My first full length novel Dead I Well May Be was shortlisted for the 2004 Ian Fleming Steel Dagger Award and was picked by Booklist as one of the 10 best crime novels of the year. The sequel to that book The Dead Yard was selected by Publishers Weekly as one of the 12 best novels of 2006 and won the Audie Award for best mystery or thriller.
In mid 2008 I moved to St. Kilda, Melbourne, Australia with my wife and kids. My last book Falling Glass was Audible's Best Mystery or Thriller for 2011. I've just published a new novel for Serpents Tail called The Cold Cold Ground.
"If Raymond Chandler had grown up in Northern Ireland he would have written The Cold Cold Ground."
---The Times
"Hardboiled charm, evocative dialogue, an acute sense of place and a sardonic sense of humour make McKinty one to watch."
---The Guardian
"A literary thriller that is as concerned with exploring the poisonously claustrophobic demi-monde of Northern Ireland during the Troubles, and the self-sabotaging contradictions of its place and time, as it is with providing the genre’s conventional thrills and spills. The result is a masterpiece of Troubles crime fiction: had David Peace, Eoin McNamee and Brian Moore sat down to brew up the great Troubles novel, they would have been very pleased indeed to have written The Cold Cold Ground."
---The Irish Times
"McKinty is a big new talent."
---The Daily Telegraph
"McKinty is a gifted man with poetry coursing through his veins and thrilling writing dripping from his fingertips."
---The Sunday Independent
"Adrian McKinty is fast gaining a reputation as the finest of the new generation of Irish crime writers, and it's easy to see why on the evidence of The Cold Cold Ground."
---The Glasgow Herald
"McKinty is a storyteller with the kind of style and panache that blur the line between genre and mainstream."
---Kirkus Reviews
"McKinty's literate expertly crafted crime novel confirms his place as one of his generation's leading talents."
---Publishers Weekly
"McKinty crackles with raw talent. His dialogue is superb, his characters rich and his plotting tight and seemless. He writes with a wonderful and wonderfully humorous flair for language raising his work above most crime genre offerings and bumping it right up against literature."
---The San Francisco Chronicle
"McKinty keeps getting better. He melds the snap and crackle of the old Mickey Spillane tales with the literary skills of Raymond Chandler and sets it all down in his own artful way."
---The Rocky Mountain News
"The first of McKinty's Forsythe novels, "Dead I Well May Be," was intense, focused and entirely brilliant. This one is looser-limbed, funnier...so, I imagine, is the middle book, "The Dead Yard," which I haven't read but which Publishers Weekly included on its list of the 12 best novels of 2006, along with works by Peter Abrahams, Richard Ford, Cormac McCarthy and George Pelecanos."
---The Washington Post
"McKinty, who grew up in Northern Ireland, has an ear for language and a taste for violence, and he serves up a terrifically gory, swiftly paced thriller."
---The Miami Herald
"There's nothing like an Irish tough guy. And we're not talking about Gentleman Gerry Cooney here. No, we mean the new breed of bare-knuckle Irish writers like Adrian McKinty, Ken Bruen and John Connolly who are bringing fresh life to the crime fiction genre."
---The Philadelphia Inquirer
"McKinty's writing is dark and witty with gritty realism, spot on dialogue, and fascinating characters."
---The Chicago Sun-Times
"If you like your noir staples such as beautiful women, betrayal, murder, mixed with a heavy dose of blood, crunched bones, body parts flying around served up with some throwaway humour, you need look no further, McKinty delivers all of this with the added bonus that the writing is pitch perfect."
---The Barcelona Review
"I really enjoyed [Dead I Well May Be’s] combination of toughness and a striking literary style. Both those things are evident in Hidden River. McKinty is going places."
---The Observer
"This is a terrific read. McKinty gives us a strong non stop story with attractive characters and fine writing."
---The Morning Star
"[McKinty] draws us close and relates a fantastic tale of murder and revenge in low, wry tones, as if from the next barstool...he drops out of conversational mode to throw in a few breathtaking fever-dream sequences for flavor. And then he springs an ending so right and satisfying it leaves us numb with delight and ready to pop for another round. Start the cliche machine: This is a profoundly satisfying book from a major new talent and one of the best crime fiction debuts of the year."
---Booklist
"The story is soaked in the holy trinity of the noir thriller: betrayal, money and murder, but seen through with a panache and political awareness that give McKinty a keen edge over his rivals."
---The Big Issue
"A darkly humorous cross between a hard-boiled mystery and a Beat novel."
---The St. Louis Post-Dispatch
"A roller coaster of highs and lows, light humour and dark deeds, the powerful undercurrent of McKinty's talent will swiftly drag you away. Let's hope the author does not slow down anytime soon."
---The Irish Examiner
"A virtual carnival of slaughter."
---The Wall Street Journal
"McKinty has once again harnassed the power of poetry, violence, lust and revenge to forge a sequel to his acclaimed Dead I Well May Be."
---The Irish Post
"A pacey, violent caper in which McKinty vividly portrays [Belfast's] sleazy, still-menacing underbelly."
---The Sunday Times
"McKinty writes with the soul of a poet; his prose dances off the pages with Old World grace and haunting intensity. It's crime fiction on the level of Michael Connolly with the conviction of James Hall."
---The Jackson Clarion-Ledger
"The Bloomsday Dead is the explosive final installment in a trilogy of kinetic thrillers."
---The New York Times
"Adrian McKinty has garnered nothing but praise for his first two books. The third in the trilogy The Bloomsday Dead should leave no doubt that he is a true star. Fast moving and highly engaging this is a great book. McKinty just gets better and better."
---CrimeSpree
"Until The Dead Yard's relentless, poignant ending you'll turn these pages as quickly as you can."
---The Cleveland Plain Dealer
"McKinty's Dead Trilogy has been praised by critics, who call it "intense," "masterful" and "loaded with action." If your reading pleasure leans toward thrillers offering suspense, close calls, wry wit, sharp dialogue, local color and sudden mayhem, you wont do better."
---The Sacramento Bee
"Le Fleuve caché d'Adrian McKinty impressionne par la richesse et la diversité de son ton et de son écriture, passant avec aisance du lyrisme ample de la nostalgie de l'amour perdu au rythme saccadé du narrateur sous l'emprise de l'héroïne. Ce livre rare et maîtrisé est une réussite bien digne de la Série noire."
---Le Figaro
Eine eigentlich simple Story, die natürlich bereits als Grundlage für Hunderte Bücher und Filme diente, macht Adrian McKinty zu der mitreißenden Odyssee eines jungen Mannes, der in der Lage ist, sich seiner Umwelt anzupassen wie jene Kakerlaken, die er in seinem Harlemer Appartement jagt, studiert und sowohl angewidert awie anerkennend entkommen lässt. Nicht umsonst 1992 angesiedelt, ist Der sichere Tod der kongeniale Kommentar zum Wesen der Neunziger.
- Jochen König, krimi-couch.de
"McKinty - that guy is a friggin genius."
---Ken Bruen
"McKinty is a cross between Mickey Spillane and Damon Runyan, the toughest, the best."
A couple more books, a few birthdays, some shuffleboard then a period spent in the digestive tract of earthworms, followed by molecular breakdown, the sun boiling into space, the heat death of the universe, atomic decay, perpetual darkness, a trillion years of nothingness and then, if we're lucky, brane collapse, a new singularity and a new Big Bang.
25 comments:
First, I commend anyone who's willing to be filmed with a fish-eye lens for 3 years every damn minute of the day. (Note to self: Important! Don't forget to get dressed before going into living room.)
Second, very cool project.
Third, not so keen on some of the Hunt for Red October music in the first third of the piece.
Last, this is the kind of thing my girlfriend does, but for Natgeo TV. She's working on something involving fertility and animals in captivity right now. (Did you know male walruses are aroused by the sound of power tools?) Also a series on the brain, which is pretty fascinating.
Thanks for putting this up, Mr. McKinty. Hope all is grand.
That was really interesting, I especially liked hearing the progression from "wawa" to water.
David
Isnt everyone aroused by the sound of power tools? At least everyone with a Nascar moustache.
Sounds like your girlfriend has a very cool job. There are two National Geographic shows I'm addicted to: Banged Up Abroad and Air Crash Investigation. The first is a testament to human stupidity and the second to the fragility of human life - one washer fails and everyone's toast.
Dennis
I never tire telling the story that my daughter's first word was dada, which I'm pretty sure was a reference to me not the 1920's art movement headed by Tristan Tzara.
I think she was probably just trying to say water.
It's an interesting experiment, but I didn't really learn anything from it that we haven't all learned just from experience.It would have been interesting if the child had some totally unexpected source of knowledge, like Dr. Who appearing secretly in the middle of the night or something.
I also think it's kind of a funny thing to use your own life as raw data. Not wrong, but just an interesting choice. Not crazy about the electrode-capped kid, though I have to admit he didn't seem to mind.
Deb Roy spoke at the TED Conference earlier this month:
http://www.ted.com/talks/deb_roy_the_birth_of_a_word.html
I was thinking pretty much what Seana said, although she said it better.
Also, humans aren't the only ones to use speech and language. My husbands psychology professor had a rather smart African Grey parrot that could talk and even somewhat reason. Some of the stories he told were pretty interesting, and amazing.
Seana
I think its kind of incredible that at the age of two you have these blobs in your house who dont do much but at the age of five you have these strange sentient creatures with their own opinions and ideas, often in complete variance to your own.
Speedskater
Thanks for that. Its ages since I've been on Ted. No doubt that will take care of my afternoon.
Glenna
"Some of the stories he told were pretty interesting, and amazing."
Now thats a hell of a parrot.
Adrian:
My cousin was very fortunate to attend the recent TED conference in Long Beach. He really liked Deb Roy's presentation, but this one with Sarah Kay was his favorite:
http://www.ted.com/talks/sarah_kay_if_i_should_have_a_daughter.html
It took me a minute to re-read that. The prof told stories aboutthe parrot. One of my favorites was when the prof brought the parrot to my husbands class and gave the parrot a bite of apple and asked the parrot what it was. The parrot said apple. The prof then gave him a bite of banana and asked the parrot what it was. The parrot said banana. Next the prof held up a pear and told the class he hadn't taught the parrot the name for the fruit. He gave the parrot a bite and asked the parrot what it was. The parrot said banapple. The prof guessed because it was roundish like an apple but soft like the banana and since the parrot didn't have a name for it he combined the two he knew.
Assuming this link wirks since im posting from my Ipod, this is a cute little video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rfGEtALHYs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
For Glenna,
Was this the famous grey parrot Alex, star of tv and books?
I saw Alex on tv. When he was tired of naming shapes and colors, he climbed up the technician's arm, nibbled on his neck and said, "I want dinner."
The technician said, "Not now, later." That parrot was annoyed at that and chewed a bit more on the guy's neck.
He did reason and listen.
And on young children: I hear a neighbor's four-year-old disagreeing with and correcting her parents all of the time. Quite amazing.
And on "dada," I have heard from reliable sources that "d" is an easier letter than most for young children to say, or as a relative of mine said, "the all purpose 'D.'" As in that green fruit, "the diwi," as a 2-year-old I know used to say.
I do feel bad that I haven't watched your video, Adrian, but I wish to concur - it is simply incredible that so many little people learn to talk so well. Just spend a few years with someone who struggles, and you'll stop taking it for granted ASAP. It is damn miraculous that more things don't go wrong.
Speedskater
I know Sarah Kay. The poet right? The good looking poet, yes?
Glenna
That isnt the parrot that whats her name who lives with the monkeys came to see, is it? I saw a video of that on a plane once and it was pretty amazing. She asked (Jane Goodall??) if she'd come in a taxi and they had a bit of a conversation.
Kathy
There could be something in that d theory. Both my girls learned to say doggie as their second word. And we dont have a dog.
Gen
It is amazing. I think its cool that you can get off a plane in any foreign country and using English can pretty much get any taxi driver to take you where you want to go.
I've got Stephen Pinker's The Language Instinct staring at me from my bookshelf, daring me to read it and make my brain hurt
Rob
Gave up on that one. Thank god it was a library book. He's a good speaker is Pinker but his books can be dense.
I wasn't sure if you meant the kids thought the parents were blobs, or the parents thought the kids were blobs, but I never found even babies particularly unsentient. The thing I think is cool is when you kind of catch very little kids when they don't know you are watching and they reveal something of their interior and separate life. Something beyond just interacting with outer stimulus. It's kind of the moment when you realize they aren't babies anymore.
Adrian,
Yes, THAT Sarah Kay!
Not to keep beating a conversation after it's dead but this was too cute to pass up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JmA2ClUvUY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Glenna
thats fine, I just dont like it when twins do that creepy psychic thing.
There were three sets of twins at my school.
One of each pair was, whilst no actually evil, a bad 'un
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