I thought that was an interesting video. Here's a NY Times article about a micro-distiller of absinthe. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/dining/23absi.html
It doesn't seem like something to gulp like the narrator did! No wonder he said he wouldn't be doing that again. I've heard of absinthe parties. Maybe it's a cult thing.
If it is a schnaps (I've never had it) then I think you are supposed to knock it back, thats what you do with schnapps but actually I really dont know.
I remember that episode. He stayed in Oscar Wilde's hotel...
To be honest I dont really get food programmes on the TV. You cant actually taste the food so whats the point. Some presenters do make a real effot at describing the food but Boudain usually says "oh thats great.". I like AB a lot but I just dont really enjoy his show or any other food telly come to that.
There's a little village near the Vintner Gorge which has a lady who makes over 140 different flavour schnapps in her cellar. For a fee you can do a tasting and she'll provide you with home made salami, smoked cheese and home made bread
Oh, dear. I am very, very confused and I haven't even been drinking absinthe. Or ob-sahnthe, as I now know I'm supposed to say. Who was that guy who sounds so convincingly like Simon Schama, and yet is not?
I have about two degrees of separation from absinthe. One of the first things that ever actually intrigued me on the internet was this little webzine called Proust Said That. It's still accesible, though it is long defunct, and on it was this article on absinthe.
The second take on it was being at a party once where we all drank way to many Cosmopolitans. There was a young woman there, who I have never met before or since, who claimed that her friend had invented Cosmopolitans, and later described her absinthe experience, somewhere in Europe, probably eastern, while on some kind of tour with her parents. We all listened in Cosmopolitan influenced fascination. I don't remember much, except that the experience sounded rather odd.
Her friend invented the Cosmpolitan? It sounds like that episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm where someone claimed to have invented the Cobb salad. But who knows maybe its true.
It's weird that he seems like kind of a parody version of Schama. It's mainly the voice, but it's also the way the video was made.
Yeah, I have no idea of the veracity of the story about the Cosmopolitan, and was inclined to say that it was one of those Cobb salad things, but I just looked it up on Wikipedia, and the theory that at least the Sex in the City version was may have come from a bartender named Cheryl Cook in South Beach, Florida makes me think it's possibly true, because Florida was the only real detail of the story I remembered.
A parody, all right, with his hyper-correct pronunciation of the final syllable of absinthe, a quirk that shouts, "I know French." This makes a weird juxtaposition with his pronunciation of schnapps as if it rhymed with snaps.
As for the subject of his discussion, I've heard it makes the heart grow fonder. ====================================== Detectives Beyond Borders "Because Murder Is More Fun Away From Home" http://www.detectivesbeyondborders.blogspot.com
Peter, it only makes the heart grow fonder in Barcelona.
I think pronouncing French correctly probably sounds less affected in England than it does America, kind of like how a Californian can pronounce Spanish as it's spoken and not sound too much like a prat.
If he is pronouncing it correctly, which I have no way of knowing.
He's got the kudos though - he was a serious art critic for a newspaper and from the wikipedia page it looks like he started making films BEFORE Schama so maybe Schama is a parody of him????
It's very inconsistent, though. Most English speaking Americans say 'armadillo' to rhyme with pillow, not 'rio', for example.
And not even those born there say Los Angeles as "Los (long o) An-hell-ace". It's Los An-gell-us, and when I was a kid my mom sometimes referred to Loss Ang-gless. Even though she had studied Spanish in Mexico. Mostly, of course, people say L.A.
On the other hand, everyone says San Jose as San Ho-say. No one calls it San Joes.
Simon Schama--copycat. Now that's a new one. I liked the way old Waldemar appeared to be addressing his thoughts to the green fairy in his glass for a large portion of the segment. I suppose Schama took notes and saw where he might be able to make improvements.
Its interesting that you say that. When I was in Cuzco I wanted to know a little bit about the place so I snuck onto various walking tours and listened to the guides talking about the square and the cathedral. The ones who werent so good at English said Yamas but the ones whose english was better said Llamas which seemed completely absurd to me - their English was so good they had learned how to say their own word incorrectly.
I will check out some more of Waldemar at some point, Rob. I really like shows that take me through art and point out things that I wouldn't have seen.
There is device, like a flattened teapot on top of a candles stick holder, that you fill wil ice and cold water. It has one or up to four thin extensions, that the glasses sit under. Once you turn the water release valve, the water is slowly dripped over the slotted spoon with the sugar cube on it.
You put it up before, but it's well worth seeing again.
When it came to the end, YouTube gives you the choice of watching Simon Schama doing Jewish jokes. I started watching it, and found he was doing it with Lawrence Weschler who was a UCSC grad and life long friend of one of my teacher Mary Holmes. He pops up in the oddest places. Anyway, the link is here. I only had time to watch the beginning.
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I thought that was an interesting video. Here's a NY Times article about a micro-distiller of absinthe. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/dining/23absi.html
It doesn't seem like something to gulp like the narrator did! No wonder he said he wouldn't be doing that again. I've heard of absinthe parties. Maybe it's a cult thing.
and there's also this video of Anthony Boudain in Paris drinking absinthe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6t9mWBKs9I
Speedskater
Thanks for that.
V interesting stuff. I suppose it must be legal now.
Trudy
If it is a schnaps (I've never had it) then I think you are supposed to knock it back, thats what you do with schnapps but actually I really dont know.
Sheiler
I remember that episode. He stayed in Oscar Wilde's hotel...
To be honest I dont really get food programmes on the TV. You cant actually taste the food so whats the point. Some presenters do make a real effot at describing the food but Boudain usually says "oh thats great.". I like AB a lot but I just dont really enjoy his show or any other food telly come to that.
I like how Johnny Depp did it in From Hell. Very ritualistic, plus he did it in the tub. Made me want buy a bottle, with a laudenum chaser
Jay
And I'll bet for at least one or two takes it was real absinthe.
I got absolutely wasted on it in a tiny bar in Strasbourg. We'd fallen in with a crowd of poets and a monk and finished the evening in this bar.
They had those special little devices that hold the sugar and slowly drip the water through the sugar
I can't remember if it was any good and I've never been able to find the bar in any subsequent visit.
In the words of Rowley Birkin QC I was very, very drunk
Rob
I'm not a big spirit drinker but I think I'll have to try it when I'm in France next time.
I have tried schnapps before in Budapest to me it was like drinking furniture polish.
Slovenia has the best Schnapps in the world.
There's a little village near the Vintner Gorge which has a lady who makes over 140 different flavour schnapps in her cellar.
For a fee you can do a tasting and she'll provide you with home made salami, smoked cheese and home made bread
Oh, dear. I am very, very confused and I haven't even been drinking absinthe. Or ob-sahnthe, as I now know I'm supposed to say. Who was that guy who sounds so convincingly like Simon Schama, and yet is not?
I have about two degrees of separation from absinthe. One of the first things that ever actually intrigued me on the internet was this little webzine called Proust Said That. It's still accesible, though it is long defunct, and on it was this article on absinthe.
The second take on it was being at a party once where we all drank way to many Cosmopolitans. There was a young woman there, who I have never met before or since, who claimed that her friend had invented Cosmopolitans, and later described her absinthe experience, somewhere in Europe, probably eastern, while on some kind of tour with her parents. We all listened in Cosmopolitan influenced fascination. I don't remember much, except that the experience sounded rather odd.
Rob
It sounds good in theory but my experience of schnapps last time wasn't so wonderful.
Seana
Its
this guy
Her friend invented the Cosmpolitan? It sounds like that episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm where someone claimed to have invented the Cobb salad. But who knows maybe its true.
The ice water should be dripped over the sugar cube. I started laughing when the guy hastily splashed it over the cube.
It's weird that he seems like kind of a parody version of Schama. It's mainly the voice, but it's also the way the video was made.
Yeah, I have no idea of the veracity of the story about the Cosmopolitan, and was inclined to say that it was one of those Cobb salad things, but I just looked it up on Wikipedia, and the theory that at least the Sex in the City version was may have come from a bartender named Cheryl Cook in South Beach, Florida makes me think it's possibly true, because Florida was the only real detail of the story I remembered.
A parody, all right, with his hyper-correct pronunciation of the final syllable of absinthe, a quirk that shouts, "I know French." This makes a weird juxtaposition with his pronunciation of schnapps as if it rhymed with snaps.
As for the subject of his discussion, I've heard it makes the heart grow fonder.
======================================
Detectives Beyond Borders
"Because Murder Is More Fun Away From Home"
http://www.detectivesbeyondborders.blogspot.com
He probably tries to sound French while saying, "restaurant" and "penchant."
Peter, it only makes the heart grow fonder in Barcelona.
I think pronouncing French correctly probably sounds less affected in England than it does America, kind of like how a Californian can pronounce Spanish as it's spoken and not sound too much like a prat.
If he is pronouncing it correctly, which I have no way of knowing.
Sean
How do you drip it? Is there a special device for doing so or do you have to sit there doing it yourself.
Seana
He's got the kudos though - he was a serious art critic for a newspaper and from the wikipedia page it looks like he started making films BEFORE Schama so maybe Schama is a parody of him????
Peter
You must be able to get Absinthe in Quebec. I cant imagine the food police having any sway there at all.
Speedskater
I remember watching a UK house of commons debate when the word "debacle" was pronounced in half a dozen different ways. It was pretty funny.
Seana
Funny you should say that. It only took me a couple of months living in America to stop saying the lls in tortilla.
It's very inconsistent, though. Most English speaking Americans say 'armadillo' to rhyme with pillow, not 'rio', for example.
And not even those born there say Los Angeles as "Los (long o) An-hell-ace". It's Los An-gell-us, and when I was a kid my mom sometimes referred to Loss Ang-gless. Even though she had studied Spanish in Mexico. Mostly, of course, people say L.A.
On the other hand, everyone says San Jose as San Ho-say. No one calls it San Joes.
Simon Schama--copycat. Now that's a new one. I liked the way old Waldemar appeared to be addressing his thoughts to the green fairy in his glass for a large portion of the segment. I suppose Schama took notes and saw where he might be able to make improvements.
Seana
Its interesting that you say that. When I was in Cuzco I wanted to know a little bit about the place so I snuck onto various walking tours and listened to the guides talking about the square and the cathedral. The ones who werent so good at English said Yamas but the ones whose english was better said Llamas which seemed completely absurd to me - their English was so good they had learned how to say their own word incorrectly.
Exactly. I think this must happen for bilingual Spanish speakers in America all the time. It must feel like they are in some sort of absurdist play.
Adrian: there is a special device.
it has a tank for water at the top, a tray underneath the spout to hold the sugar and then a bracket for your glass.
The ones we used were very ornate and made of shiny copper
Adrian, I'm not too spiritual a tippler. I prefer wine, beer and cider.
Rob, I think that's what's known as paraphenalia.
Wonderful word, Seana
As for Waldemar, his series are very good and a lot less dry than Schama. His series on the Baroque was great fun
I will check out some more of Waldemar at some point, Rob. I really like shows that take me through art and point out things that I wouldn't have seen.
Rob, Seana
Have you seen this punk kid's Simon Schama spoof
Adrian,
There is device, like a flattened teapot on top of a candles stick holder, that you fill wil ice and cold water. It has one or up to four thin extensions, that the glasses sit under. Once you turn the water release valve, the water is slowly dripped over the slotted spoon with the sugar cube on it.
You put it up before, but it's well worth seeing again.
When it came to the end, YouTube gives you the choice of watching Simon Schama doing Jewish jokes. I started watching it, and found he was doing it with Lawrence Weschler who was a UCSC grad and life long friend of one of my teacher Mary Holmes. He pops up in the oddest places. Anyway, the link is here. I only had time to watch the beginning.
I suppose it wouldnt work with Sweet N Low?
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